BharatPremi
12-10 02:25 PM
I thought this will happen. People will oppose the post and find faults in Logiclife instead of themselves. There are several people coming up with their 2 cent ideas on this thread asking what IV must do and plan. But none of them want to do that themselves.
I think this is the real reason for failure.
Internet,
First of all let me tell you that nobody is claiming "Failure" here or nowhere on any other thread. The message is loud and clear: "Self Correction" to avoid possible lag- And what you are indicating could also be one of the factor and we may need to recognize it and correct it.
I think this is the real reason for failure.
Internet,
First of all let me tell you that nobody is claiming "Failure" here or nowhere on any other thread. The message is loud and clear: "Self Correction" to avoid possible lag- And what you are indicating could also be one of the factor and we may need to recognize it and correct it.
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Jaime
09-12 02:13 PM
You still have time to arrange your plans and attend! Here�s why you should come:
You have probably made up your mind not to attend the rally. Perhaps you think that already many people will attend and that one more or one less person (You) will not make a difference. But it will! In fact, let�s not even think about whether one more or one less person will make a difference. Rather, I invite you to think this way: Do it because it�s right! Do it for yourself! Think to yourself that you would do this even if you were the only person attending the rally. Think of Gandhi. Think of Martin Luther King.
You have been very frustrated for years with this broken immigration system, right? Perhaps you�ve been stuck for years, no raises, spouse cannot work, children aging out? How many times have you wanted to tell Congress what�s on your mind? This is likely your ONLY CHANCE to do so! Again, think of this in terms of you attending even if you were the only person attending. Attend because you are mad. Attend because you want to see change. Attend to make yourself visible, and make everyone out there know of your silent struggle. The silent struggle that you have had to put up for years. Even if that�s all you do, you will feel better. People will know the unfairness that you have been treated with! Attend because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! If your friends are not attending, try to convince them, but if they choose not to go, don�t let that influence you! Sometimes in life we have to do things just because they are right, no other reason. Will this rally work? Will lawmakers listen? Will my employer be mad that I took a day off? Will I have to spend $500 to get there? None of that matters! The only reason of why you should attend is because you have been abused, and you will not take it! You have dignity! You will go and tell Congress to stop messing with you unfairly. You have the power, freedom and OBLIGATION to do so! Your children will be proud of you. If you do not attend the rally, it will be a once-in-a-lifetime lost opportunity! LET�S GO! WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!
You have probably made up your mind not to attend the rally. Perhaps you think that already many people will attend and that one more or one less person (You) will not make a difference. But it will! In fact, let�s not even think about whether one more or one less person will make a difference. Rather, I invite you to think this way: Do it because it�s right! Do it for yourself! Think to yourself that you would do this even if you were the only person attending the rally. Think of Gandhi. Think of Martin Luther King.
You have been very frustrated for years with this broken immigration system, right? Perhaps you�ve been stuck for years, no raises, spouse cannot work, children aging out? How many times have you wanted to tell Congress what�s on your mind? This is likely your ONLY CHANCE to do so! Again, think of this in terms of you attending even if you were the only person attending. Attend because you are mad. Attend because you want to see change. Attend to make yourself visible, and make everyone out there know of your silent struggle. The silent struggle that you have had to put up for years. Even if that�s all you do, you will feel better. People will know the unfairness that you have been treated with! Attend because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! If your friends are not attending, try to convince them, but if they choose not to go, don�t let that influence you! Sometimes in life we have to do things just because they are right, no other reason. Will this rally work? Will lawmakers listen? Will my employer be mad that I took a day off? Will I have to spend $500 to get there? None of that matters! The only reason of why you should attend is because you have been abused, and you will not take it! You have dignity! You will go and tell Congress to stop messing with you unfairly. You have the power, freedom and OBLIGATION to do so! Your children will be proud of you. If you do not attend the rally, it will be a once-in-a-lifetime lost opportunity! LET�S GO! WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!
zram1977
04-10 11:13 AM
Iam sorry to say that i could not navigate to certain forum postings and IV did not communicate that these are not availabe for Non - Donors.... Why this caste system?
"I am not blaming the Core at all, they are doing whateven they can given the limited resources, time and influence they have. But, what I am blaming, is the the "holier than thou" attitude which is adopted when distinguishing between those that are the exalted DONORS and those that aren't "
"I am not blaming the Core at all, they are doing whateven they can given the limited resources, time and influence they have. But, what I am blaming, is the the "holier than thou" attitude which is adopted when distinguishing between those that are the exalted DONORS and those that aren't "
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Tito_ortiz
02-13 10:37 AM
Guys, this is by far one of the best points ever made in this forum. This is actually our silver bullet. Open the eyes of people around the world that the US is not treating skilled immigrants right anymore. There are many countries out there which offer more career opportunities than here. By the way, what am I doing here?!
Pappu, I sent the article to my cousin in China, asking him to publish his story. Please read his reply. He graduated from University of Chicago and went back to China two years after working in US.
"This is another sad story about skilled immigrant.
I want to talk about this issue from my perspective.
I got my M.B.A in a prestigious US university and worked as a Financial Analyst in US for two years. I was thinking of applying for GC at that time because I had planned to stay in US. But, that winter, when I took a vacation in China, I decided to look for a job in China because I was very impressed by the economic development in China and wanted to capitalize on the opportunity. The Chinese market was/is in urgent demand for US-trained financial analyst. After some interviews, I got a very generous offer from a multinational company and quitted my job in US without any hesitation.
Now five years has passed. Because of my excellent performance, I get two promotions in the past five years and am a director in my company. My boss, who is an american, lost his job and has to go back to US because my company cannot see any fiancial advantage to hire him anymore. I have never been happier. I believe that I made a very good choice five years ago. Most of my chinese classmates during MBA study are still struggling for their GCs and get stuck in their career development because of GCs. They are quite regret that they did not come back to China back 5 years.
So what I want say is that, US is not a very good place to stay anymore. There are many golden opportunities in your own country! Many countries are becoming stronger and stronger. It's not 10 or 20 years ago. 10 or 20 years ago, US is the best place in the world to stay. But now, it's different. My friends in US make about $150k a year and cannot afford a luxury lifestyle. I make $100k a year and enjoy a very comfortable life in China. I built my own house in China, which is even better than my house in New Jersey before. I hired my own chauffeur, housekeeper, two nannies for my baby... I cannot afford these thing if I were still in US. How many americans can afford the same lifestyle as mine? I don't think there are many.
My point is, be open to opportunities in your own countries or other countries in the world other than US. You will be happy to leave US several years later when you look back. Besides, if more and more US-trained scientists and professionals come back to their own countries and help their countries to develop, maybe in another 10 or 20 years, no one would want GC anymore."
Pappu, I sent the article to my cousin in China, asking him to publish his story. Please read his reply. He graduated from University of Chicago and went back to China two years after working in US.
"This is another sad story about skilled immigrant.
I want to talk about this issue from my perspective.
I got my M.B.A in a prestigious US university and worked as a Financial Analyst in US for two years. I was thinking of applying for GC at that time because I had planned to stay in US. But, that winter, when I took a vacation in China, I decided to look for a job in China because I was very impressed by the economic development in China and wanted to capitalize on the opportunity. The Chinese market was/is in urgent demand for US-trained financial analyst. After some interviews, I got a very generous offer from a multinational company and quitted my job in US without any hesitation.
Now five years has passed. Because of my excellent performance, I get two promotions in the past five years and am a director in my company. My boss, who is an american, lost his job and has to go back to US because my company cannot see any fiancial advantage to hire him anymore. I have never been happier. I believe that I made a very good choice five years ago. Most of my chinese classmates during MBA study are still struggling for their GCs and get stuck in their career development because of GCs. They are quite regret that they did not come back to China back 5 years.
So what I want say is that, US is not a very good place to stay anymore. There are many golden opportunities in your own country! Many countries are becoming stronger and stronger. It's not 10 or 20 years ago. 10 or 20 years ago, US is the best place in the world to stay. But now, it's different. My friends in US make about $150k a year and cannot afford a luxury lifestyle. I make $100k a year and enjoy a very comfortable life in China. I built my own house in China, which is even better than my house in New Jersey before. I hired my own chauffeur, housekeeper, two nannies for my baby... I cannot afford these thing if I were still in US. How many americans can afford the same lifestyle as mine? I don't think there are many.
My point is, be open to opportunities in your own countries or other countries in the world other than US. You will be happy to leave US several years later when you look back. Besides, if more and more US-trained scientists and professionals come back to their own countries and help their countries to develop, maybe in another 10 or 20 years, no one would want GC anymore."
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coolfun
07-03 02:58 PM
According to him, we do. I'm slightly worried but not excessively so. I think we're gonna be ok. I'll call again in about an hour, so check back on here soon for my update.
Thanks BornConfused. Does this mean that we might get our GC approved between now and September 30, 2007 because the visa numbers have been allotted to us?
I will wait for your update. Thanks again.
Thanks BornConfused. Does this mean that we might get our GC approved between now and September 30, 2007 because the visa numbers have been allotted to us?
I will wait for your update. Thanks again.
Macaca
09-14 03:21 PM
What keeps
so many people back is
simply
unwillingness to pay the price,
to make the exertion,
the effort to sacrifice
their ease and comfort
Orison Swett Marden
so many people back is
simply
unwillingness to pay the price,
to make the exertion,
the effort to sacrifice
their ease and comfort
Orison Swett Marden
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Macaca
09-20 04:27 PM
The most important part of rally is the lawmaker meeting because they decide to bring up the bills and then vote on them.
There are 635 lawmakers: 100 senators + 535 house members. It would be great if we could set up at least 1 meeting with every lawmaker and more meetings with immigration sub committee members.
example 1 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=170156&postcount=4457) and example 2 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=170176&postcount=4458)
There are 635 lawmakers: 100 senators + 535 house members. It would be great if we could set up at least 1 meeting with every lawmaker and more meetings with immigration sub committee members.
example 1 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=170156&postcount=4457) and example 2 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=170176&postcount=4458)
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mundada
01-12 02:39 PM
Again you are plain wrong. If a non-US citizen buys house in the US then does he have the right to own the house and live as he wants? The answer is YES.
Similarly, the US Constitution protects certain rights of non-US citizens who are in the US. One of them is right to the Equal Opportunity Employment. Now if a law is passed such that it intentionally or unintentionally goes against the right of the US citizens or non-US citizens, employed in the lands of the US, to Equal Opportunity Employment then YES the US courts can rule that the law is unconstitutional and hence no longer applies.
The Key Point: Equal opportunity employement advancement is protected by Constitution ("Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII)") and hence the Supreme Court can overturn the per country quota limitation if the Supreme Court finds that the per country quota leads to discrimination at employment, which is unconstitutional.
Unfortunately, I agree with you, this thread is going no where. It will go on for 10+ pages and then die. I have seen may be 5 such threads on immigrationvoice and .
You are talking about rights as if you are a citizen of this country. Constitutional rights are given to the citizens of the country. It is not your right to stay in this country. Legally it is your employer who wants you here and petitions for your Greencard. Now can you get your employer to talk to your congressman or media or file a lawsuit for you?
There were some folks talking about lawsuit 3 months ago after the visa bulletin. That thread ran 9 pages and nobody did anything. 2 months ago again people talked about lawsuit and hunger strike. Nobody did anything. So it is not going to happen. Are you willing to spend thousands and keep going to courts or testify? Are you ok with your greencard application be used as an example and allow USCIS to scrutinize it?
This talk about lawsuit is all gas.
Similarly, the US Constitution protects certain rights of non-US citizens who are in the US. One of them is right to the Equal Opportunity Employment. Now if a law is passed such that it intentionally or unintentionally goes against the right of the US citizens or non-US citizens, employed in the lands of the US, to Equal Opportunity Employment then YES the US courts can rule that the law is unconstitutional and hence no longer applies.
The Key Point: Equal opportunity employement advancement is protected by Constitution ("Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII)") and hence the Supreme Court can overturn the per country quota limitation if the Supreme Court finds that the per country quota leads to discrimination at employment, which is unconstitutional.
Unfortunately, I agree with you, this thread is going no where. It will go on for 10+ pages and then die. I have seen may be 5 such threads on immigrationvoice and .
You are talking about rights as if you are a citizen of this country. Constitutional rights are given to the citizens of the country. It is not your right to stay in this country. Legally it is your employer who wants you here and petitions for your Greencard. Now can you get your employer to talk to your congressman or media or file a lawsuit for you?
There were some folks talking about lawsuit 3 months ago after the visa bulletin. That thread ran 9 pages and nobody did anything. 2 months ago again people talked about lawsuit and hunger strike. Nobody did anything. So it is not going to happen. Are you willing to spend thousands and keep going to courts or testify? Are you ok with your greencard application be used as an example and allow USCIS to scrutinize it?
This talk about lawsuit is all gas.
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cagedcactus
10-10 12:38 PM
There are many here (on IV forums) who question if Lobbying and Grassroots efforts really works. It they didn't, we wouldn't be here!
Read the following article on early Indian Immigrants and their miserable conditions before 1946. How they overcame the racist/xenophobic labor groups opposition through lobbying and grassroots efforts and became citizens.
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/082006/citizen.htm
Read the article, become motivated, join MI chapter. Together we shall prevail
True stuff...
Those who question the lobbying and efforts are not really questioning it. They are actually saying that lets do nothing and let system figure it out itself. well, cant blame them. But we will move forward. We will do everything we can at local level to make sure that we are heard.
Read the following article on early Indian Immigrants and their miserable conditions before 1946. How they overcame the racist/xenophobic labor groups opposition through lobbying and grassroots efforts and became citizens.
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/082006/citizen.htm
Read the article, become motivated, join MI chapter. Together we shall prevail
True stuff...
Those who question the lobbying and efforts are not really questioning it. They are actually saying that lets do nothing and let system figure it out itself. well, cant blame them. But we will move forward. We will do everything we can at local level to make sure that we are heard.
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coldcloud
05-23 06:20 AM
After all of that if your pay is greater than 75K and if you file separately you will not be getting stimulus package. This was the news i got confirmed from IRS over phone.
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msjaggi
07-19 04:54 PM
Hi,
1. I am on L1 with current company A(with current i-94 expiring in Nov 2007). I got my H1 approval this year from consultant B and they got the I-797B. This document shows the validity from Nov 2007-2010. But I have heard people get something called I-797A which has a new I-94 attached to it and in my case it is not.
Here are my questions.
1. Can I start working for consultant B from Oct 1.(after quitting the company A with L1).?
2. What should I do since I have current I-94 only till Nov 15th 2007 and if I ask my current company A to extend it they wont do because I want to leave them as early as possible before Oct 1st.
3. Can my consultant file for the change of STATUS from L1 to H1B(the approval for which I have already received from USCIS) and then in that case it will have new I-94 attached.
4. Anyother suggestions what should I be doing so that I can start working on H1 after Oct1st here and then whenever I go back to India, after 4 or 5 months I will have the Visa stamped.
Thanks in advance.
1. I am on L1 with current company A(with current i-94 expiring in Nov 2007). I got my H1 approval this year from consultant B and they got the I-797B. This document shows the validity from Nov 2007-2010. But I have heard people get something called I-797A which has a new I-94 attached to it and in my case it is not.
Here are my questions.
1. Can I start working for consultant B from Oct 1.(after quitting the company A with L1).?
2. What should I do since I have current I-94 only till Nov 15th 2007 and if I ask my current company A to extend it they wont do because I want to leave them as early as possible before Oct 1st.
3. Can my consultant file for the change of STATUS from L1 to H1B(the approval for which I have already received from USCIS) and then in that case it will have new I-94 attached.
4. Anyother suggestions what should I be doing so that I can start working on H1 after Oct1st here and then whenever I go back to India, after 4 or 5 months I will have the Visa stamped.
Thanks in advance.
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rayoflight
05-19 09:37 PM
Thank You GreenMe for your support and encouraging your friends as well.
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manishgc
05-24 10:54 PM
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Thanks for everybody's time and effort.
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I140 approved - Jan, 2006.
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bluekayal
06-30 05:18 PM
I had a 2004 PD Labor RIR and my 2006 I-140 used that labor date, because I merely mentioned to an IO at TSC that I had a previously filed labor. My lawyer was shocked when it happened...had never seen it.
So, I wonder if they used your 2004 RIR as your PD. Even then EB 2 is supposed to be unavailable. Oh well, it might help to speak to an IO to get your I-140 PD changed...maybe...
So, I wonder if they used your 2004 RIR as your PD. Even then EB 2 is supposed to be unavailable. Oh well, it might help to speak to an IO to get your I-140 PD changed...maybe...
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03-05 12:22 PM
i think if we are paying for something we should have the ownership it too.
lets format a reply saying that 5K is too much for the job...if they can give us their Data Model diagram, we can give them the code in a week without any cost.
This is an excellent idea and a great opportunity to show case our skills. How about IV offering as non-profit organization our expertise ( from members) to help with this and reduce cost and improving efficiency of this program for USCIS - FREE OF COST.
I am aware there might be many issues with data security etc here but at least we could propose this. As a fellow member suggested this should be a report that needs to be published every few months or so to make it transparent and traceable.Ooops wait, will it show the true picture of how efficient USCIS is if they do this? :D
I dont see it going anywhere, this is just stalling. They already have that kind of information if the statement from O'man office is any indication or they lied to the office. Either way we need to highlight this with the O'man's office first and then follow it up with Local senators and highlight it. This needs to go big way.
Getting them to give one off statement is not going to solve anything besides it might be only a starting price and might increase or are they charging the same $5000 every time somebody asks them for an update.
- cheers
kris
lets format a reply saying that 5K is too much for the job...if they can give us their Data Model diagram, we can give them the code in a week without any cost.
This is an excellent idea and a great opportunity to show case our skills. How about IV offering as non-profit organization our expertise ( from members) to help with this and reduce cost and improving efficiency of this program for USCIS - FREE OF COST.
I am aware there might be many issues with data security etc here but at least we could propose this. As a fellow member suggested this should be a report that needs to be published every few months or so to make it transparent and traceable.Ooops wait, will it show the true picture of how efficient USCIS is if they do this? :D
I dont see it going anywhere, this is just stalling. They already have that kind of information if the statement from O'man office is any indication or they lied to the office. Either way we need to highlight this with the O'man's office first and then follow it up with Local senators and highlight it. This needs to go big way.
Getting them to give one off statement is not going to solve anything besides it might be only a starting price and might increase or are they charging the same $5000 every time somebody asks them for an update.
- cheers
kris
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TheMaverick
06-24 12:48 PM
Got transferred to the Judiciary sub-committee and talked to someone who said that she'll pass the message along. Didn't mention that she was getting a lot of calls.
So people please call if you haven't yet.
So people please call if you haven't yet.
sunny1000
06-09 05:37 PM
That is right. But same country quota is there in EB system also. So in point system also 80% of people will get same quality of people as current system. But advantage is process delay will be eliminated.
Right now, in the EB based system, the employer picks the applicant, not the Federal Government. Also, under the current system, even if the country is limited by quota, it is a soft quota. No matter how you see it, the current system attracts the best and brightest and rewards only only those who are physically in this country with the GC (EB based). how can that be compared to the merit based system which you claim would attract the 80%? Any tom/dick or harry can apply from any country and get thru.
What do you mean by "process delay being eliminated"? It would take years for USCIS to come up with an easy set of rules. Again, the per country quota would kick in. It would take eternity to get a GC under the merit system. I dont see any "merit" in that.
Right now, in the EB based system, the employer picks the applicant, not the Federal Government. Also, under the current system, even if the country is limited by quota, it is a soft quota. No matter how you see it, the current system attracts the best and brightest and rewards only only those who are physically in this country with the GC (EB based). how can that be compared to the merit based system which you claim would attract the 80%? Any tom/dick or harry can apply from any country and get thru.
What do you mean by "process delay being eliminated"? It would take years for USCIS to come up with an easy set of rules. Again, the per country quota would kick in. It would take eternity to get a GC under the merit system. I dont see any "merit" in that.
JazzByTheBay
09-12 10:49 AM
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SAN JOSE WAS THE BEGINNING, DC WILL BE A HUGE MILESTONE!
(San Jose rally pictures and videos, and Aman's messages from Milpitas, CA meeting can be found at http://morejazzbythebay.wordpress.com (http://morejazzbythebay.wordpress.com/))
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cheers, and see ya'll in DC!
jazz
SAN JOSE WAS THE BEGINNING, DC WILL BE A HUGE MILESTONE!
(San Jose rally pictures and videos, and Aman's messages from Milpitas, CA meeting can be found at http://morejazzbythebay.wordpress.com (http://morejazzbythebay.wordpress.com/))
http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/20/99/22609920.jpg
cheers, and see ya'll in DC!
jazz
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