swissgear
08-24 12:00 AM
Context is everything
And people here are scolding and ranting against the program, not "loophole". But why even fight against the so-called loopholes? Don't we have anything better to do? Visa recapture is a much more worthy goal
And BTW, a 30k salary doesn't matter for executives. Jerry Yang works for $1 a year, so does it mean he is not eligible? And what about the executives working for free for a noble cause? Not everyone is money-minded, and they may choose their goals and priorities
GK, All I can say about your disconnected arguments are one thing. Myself and Nathan are talking about fairness about the system and on how corporates exploit the loophole thereby exploiting the hardworking individuals like you and me. We never here scolded and ranted about the program and as a matter of fact we are having issues with the so called "LoopHole" But your arguments are going in a completely different direction. You can re-read all of our posts again and see where we mentioned anything about ranting against the program.
And BTW FYI, I never worked for TCS. And to let you know, I did my Masters in Soft Engg from BITS and Bachelors in Technology. When I say I got paid 65k for the kind of service I did to the company(5 yrs ago) , itself says a lot of things on how companies exploit which has no relation to the number of yrs of experience and qualifications.
All that matters for those companies is whether client is made happy or not, irrespective of what you undergo. FYI I worked company starting with W (top 3 IT companies in India at that time) .
Let me explain you how this works.....Exactly as to how it happened in my case.
First you are given ransom salary offer say 30-40% more that what you might be earning and an immediate on-site offer within 12 months of joining the company. You feel pretty happy with all of those initially.
Later they send you onsite as promised on L1 by making you wait for 1 yr, (even when they can sponsor you H1) so person would be eligible on L1. Things will look good until now.
While sending you to onsite, no one will let you know what kind of salary you would be paid. Things will start to get interesting from the moment you land in US.
You are paid just a week of hotel stay(extended stay) and 1 week car rental(only if you have valid DL). You have to beg / borrow for a ride or take public commute if available.
After 2 days of settling you will be given a salary letter stating that your salary is 50k with a bonus of 5k.
This is the catch. The companies feel that sending a guy on site itself is a big deal. Logically you think that person earning more at offshore than the other person will also get paid more. Its not the case, everyone at onsite are paid the same, irrespective of what their salary is are offshore(only 2 salary ranges exist).And there is no offshore component, and the pathetic thing about it is, you are paid basic salary at offshore deducting from your onsite salary.
Also, just so you know, and onsite person playing a manager role is just an additional responsibility and not a dedicated role. So this is on top of your regular technical role.
And now comes your GC step. After you spend 5 yrs onsite, since you have to leave back after 6 yrs, the company will file in EB1-A and thereby getting your GC. After you get your GC, you are already out of touch from the rest of the world except from your daily offshore/onsite issues and so on and you would not be able to know as to what exactly you can do with your GC. All that happens is you will not be fit to work anywhere except the place you were working at. This has happened to many of my colleagues. I was lucky enough to get out of that chaos after my 1 yr at onsite. All I can say is I'm very much happy now with GC filed in EB2 and making much more that what I used to ...
BTW your comment on someone working for $1 or 30k is for their own noble cause and you cannot expect everyone to have that.
And coming to a conclusion about someone who you do not know about is uncalled for...
And people here are scolding and ranting against the program, not "loophole". But why even fight against the so-called loopholes? Don't we have anything better to do? Visa recapture is a much more worthy goal
And BTW, a 30k salary doesn't matter for executives. Jerry Yang works for $1 a year, so does it mean he is not eligible? And what about the executives working for free for a noble cause? Not everyone is money-minded, and they may choose their goals and priorities
GK, All I can say about your disconnected arguments are one thing. Myself and Nathan are talking about fairness about the system and on how corporates exploit the loophole thereby exploiting the hardworking individuals like you and me. We never here scolded and ranted about the program and as a matter of fact we are having issues with the so called "LoopHole" But your arguments are going in a completely different direction. You can re-read all of our posts again and see where we mentioned anything about ranting against the program.
And BTW FYI, I never worked for TCS. And to let you know, I did my Masters in Soft Engg from BITS and Bachelors in Technology. When I say I got paid 65k for the kind of service I did to the company(5 yrs ago) , itself says a lot of things on how companies exploit which has no relation to the number of yrs of experience and qualifications.
All that matters for those companies is whether client is made happy or not, irrespective of what you undergo. FYI I worked company starting with W (top 3 IT companies in India at that time) .
Let me explain you how this works.....Exactly as to how it happened in my case.
First you are given ransom salary offer say 30-40% more that what you might be earning and an immediate on-site offer within 12 months of joining the company. You feel pretty happy with all of those initially.
Later they send you onsite as promised on L1 by making you wait for 1 yr, (even when they can sponsor you H1) so person would be eligible on L1. Things will look good until now.
While sending you to onsite, no one will let you know what kind of salary you would be paid. Things will start to get interesting from the moment you land in US.
You are paid just a week of hotel stay(extended stay) and 1 week car rental(only if you have valid DL). You have to beg / borrow for a ride or take public commute if available.
After 2 days of settling you will be given a salary letter stating that your salary is 50k with a bonus of 5k.
This is the catch. The companies feel that sending a guy on site itself is a big deal. Logically you think that person earning more at offshore than the other person will also get paid more. Its not the case, everyone at onsite are paid the same, irrespective of what their salary is are offshore(only 2 salary ranges exist).And there is no offshore component, and the pathetic thing about it is, you are paid basic salary at offshore deducting from your onsite salary.
Also, just so you know, and onsite person playing a manager role is just an additional responsibility and not a dedicated role. So this is on top of your regular technical role.
And now comes your GC step. After you spend 5 yrs onsite, since you have to leave back after 6 yrs, the company will file in EB1-A and thereby getting your GC. After you get your GC, you are already out of touch from the rest of the world except from your daily offshore/onsite issues and so on and you would not be able to know as to what exactly you can do with your GC. All that happens is you will not be fit to work anywhere except the place you were working at. This has happened to many of my colleagues. I was lucky enough to get out of that chaos after my 1 yr at onsite. All I can say is I'm very much happy now with GC filed in EB2 and making much more that what I used to ...
BTW your comment on someone working for $1 or 30k is for their own noble cause and you cannot expect everyone to have that.
And coming to a conclusion about someone who you do not know about is uncalled for...
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ashutrip
06-18 11:03 AM
Hope not, we never thought that this will be current so soon. so my gut feeling is that we all should be fine up until Sep end.
Good luck for you and all!
I am praying what u say is right!1111
Good luck for you and all!
I am praying what u say is right!1111
inskrish
08-17 03:12 AM
Looking at the recent approvals looks like USCIS does the following:
1. Pick up x number of files using a random algorithm.
2. Arrange these files in a random order using the same random algorithm
followed in step 1.
3. Randomly pick any file arranged in step 2.
4. Toss a coin.
5. On odd dates if it is heads,approve the file. On even dates if it is tails
approve it.
6. If file is not approved in step 5 put it on the shelf to be picked up
in step 1 in next cycle.
For Disclaimers: on step (1), x is also a random number, and the coin used on step (4) by USCIS may sometimes have neither tail nor head..:D
1. Pick up x number of files using a random algorithm.
2. Arrange these files in a random order using the same random algorithm
followed in step 1.
3. Randomly pick any file arranged in step 2.
4. Toss a coin.
5. On odd dates if it is heads,approve the file. On even dates if it is tails
approve it.
6. If file is not approved in step 5 put it on the shelf to be picked up
in step 1 in next cycle.
For Disclaimers: on step (1), x is also a random number, and the coin used on step (4) by USCIS may sometimes have neither tail nor head..:D
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Madhuri
10-22 12:04 PM
Mailed the letters.
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GMKrishna
07-06 12:06 PM
None of the organizations succeed without making people accountable for their actions or inactions. This is true in the case of IV as well. We are all individually accountable for the current state of affiairs at IV, either good or bad, and we must accept or atleast acknowledge that before looking for solutions.
Before going for big ticket items like leadership change, elections and other politics let us focus on what we can improve instantly or in the near future. We all know that in the immigration process, there are only few factors or variables we can control, and rest lies with employer or DHS or USCIS or U.S. Government. One thing we can control is how we can improve our actions so that our voices will be heard to those who can act on our behalf. The list includes legislators, senators, media and local immigration community based organizations.
As a first step, let us add 'ACTION ITEMS' tab on the menu of IV home page. This action items tab will have list of 'to-dos' by all members on a monthly basis. These simply include, say, in July-09, every member should send one fax to local legislator, or write a letter or e-mail to media organizations like CNN, Business Week etc. We may do the same thing with different but similar content based on how events un-fold on a monthly basis. Now, the leadership with the help of other volunteers should come up with monthly agenda, and provide tools like - format of letter, content etc. The other member should just have to follow.
I will conclude with a quote from Anthony Robbins (great leadership coach): "Your life will not change by reading or listening....your life will only change by action". Let us make every one accountable in this process.
Before going for big ticket items like leadership change, elections and other politics let us focus on what we can improve instantly or in the near future. We all know that in the immigration process, there are only few factors or variables we can control, and rest lies with employer or DHS or USCIS or U.S. Government. One thing we can control is how we can improve our actions so that our voices will be heard to those who can act on our behalf. The list includes legislators, senators, media and local immigration community based organizations.
As a first step, let us add 'ACTION ITEMS' tab on the menu of IV home page. This action items tab will have list of 'to-dos' by all members on a monthly basis. These simply include, say, in July-09, every member should send one fax to local legislator, or write a letter or e-mail to media organizations like CNN, Business Week etc. We may do the same thing with different but similar content based on how events un-fold on a monthly basis. Now, the leadership with the help of other volunteers should come up with monthly agenda, and provide tools like - format of letter, content etc. The other member should just have to follow.
I will conclude with a quote from Anthony Robbins (great leadership coach): "Your life will not change by reading or listening....your life will only change by action". Let us make every one accountable in this process.
mariner5555
05-01 03:45 PM
1. Another reply was If we use All permitted unsed visa, Where would we be in terms of EB visa. His response was Probably china/India Second category will be clear.
2. According to Him 65% of visa has been used for this year. less amount of visa remain now for this year. We shouldn't expect miracle for this year at least.
3. Let Join hands together and follow the HSMP people did in UK.
did he say anything about EB3 ? if u know ..can u share ?
2. According to Him 65% of visa has been used for this year. less amount of visa remain now for this year. We shouldn't expect miracle for this year at least.
3. Let Join hands together and follow the HSMP people did in UK.
did he say anything about EB3 ? if u know ..can u share ?
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adde72
07-05 11:35 PM
Dugg! and posted a comment...
Please also digg comments.
Dugg and posted comment ... this is great chance for US ( legal immigrants ) to solve our issues ...please participate activly ....I can see the light
Please also digg comments.
Dugg and posted comment ... this is great chance for US ( legal immigrants ) to solve our issues ...please participate activly ....I can see the light
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Blessing&Lifeisbeautiful
08-08 05:46 PM
Hi Angel
If you need any help whatsoever, ps let me know.
bump
If you need any help whatsoever, ps let me know.
bump
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hazishak
07-18 06:25 PM
Since on 2nd July they said they will reject the AOS application, what if they would have done some rejection during that time, and by the time July filers get their application back, it is after 17th of August. In that circumstance, can you send the AOS application back arguing USCIS's mistake and ask them to take it back after 08/17 and would they take it back politely or reject it again.
You just simply resend it.
You just simply resend it.
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tikka
07-18 04:21 PM
I wish we make it only for contributing members.
good idea ! :D
good idea ! :D
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diptam
10-08 02:58 PM
mayitbesoon,
Please send the email (something is better than nothing) but you will receive a return email like this after 20-30 days but the message reaches across them by email at least.
I took about 3 weeks for me to convince , going up the ladder in HR Department and finally i got that page signed after 4 weeks - Call , Call again , Follow up, follow up , push , push harder ... you have every right to get that letter and employer will face no trouble issuing it. be Polite , be rough , be mild and startover again on phone to get it
Mr. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:
Thank you for your inquiry.
We have submitted your immigration issue into our trends system, which allows us to view systemic problems within USCIS.
Meanwhile, if you are still encountering a problem with your individual case, you may find it helpful to submit a formal case problem request to our office through filing a DHS-7001.
If you choose to submit a case problem request, please submit your case using Form DHS-7001 , CIS Ombudsman Case Problem Submission. This form is attached to this message , and also available on this website: http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_dhsform7001.pdf. If you submit a case problem on behalf of another individual with a pending USCIS immigration benefit , please obtain the individual’s signature in Section 15: Consent on Form DHS-7001 , CIS Ombudsman Case Problem Submission.
Case problems cannot be submitted through facsimile or email at this time due to confidentiality and Privacy Act issues. Please mail your completed and signed form , with supporting documentation , to the following address:
Via Regular Mail:
Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman Department of Homeland Security
Attention: Case Problems
Mail Stop 1225
Washington, D.C. 20528-1225
Via Courier Service:
Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman Department of Homeland Security
Attention: Case Problems
245 Murray Lane
Mail Stop 1225
Washington, D.C. 20528-1225
Please allow 14 business days for receipt of your form. You will receive confirmation through postal mail of receipt and review of your case problem from CISOMB and USCIS CAO within 45 business days. Please remember that CISOMB cannot provide immigration advice or adjudication. For further information , please consult this website: http://www.dhs.gov/cisombudsman.
Thank you for again for your inquiry.
Sincerely,
CIS Ombudsman
Diptam,
Thanks for the updates.
My husband's I-140 is pending at TSC for an year now and employer is not agreeing to sign on form 7001. Can we send an e-mail to Omburdsman and expect some action to be taken?? does it help?
Please send the email (something is better than nothing) but you will receive a return email like this after 20-30 days but the message reaches across them by email at least.
I took about 3 weeks for me to convince , going up the ladder in HR Department and finally i got that page signed after 4 weeks - Call , Call again , Follow up, follow up , push , push harder ... you have every right to get that letter and employer will face no trouble issuing it. be Polite , be rough , be mild and startover again on phone to get it
Mr. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:
Thank you for your inquiry.
We have submitted your immigration issue into our trends system, which allows us to view systemic problems within USCIS.
Meanwhile, if you are still encountering a problem with your individual case, you may find it helpful to submit a formal case problem request to our office through filing a DHS-7001.
If you choose to submit a case problem request, please submit your case using Form DHS-7001 , CIS Ombudsman Case Problem Submission. This form is attached to this message , and also available on this website: http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_dhsform7001.pdf. If you submit a case problem on behalf of another individual with a pending USCIS immigration benefit , please obtain the individual’s signature in Section 15: Consent on Form DHS-7001 , CIS Ombudsman Case Problem Submission.
Case problems cannot be submitted through facsimile or email at this time due to confidentiality and Privacy Act issues. Please mail your completed and signed form , with supporting documentation , to the following address:
Via Regular Mail:
Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman Department of Homeland Security
Attention: Case Problems
Mail Stop 1225
Washington, D.C. 20528-1225
Via Courier Service:
Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman Department of Homeland Security
Attention: Case Problems
245 Murray Lane
Mail Stop 1225
Washington, D.C. 20528-1225
Please allow 14 business days for receipt of your form. You will receive confirmation through postal mail of receipt and review of your case problem from CISOMB and USCIS CAO within 45 business days. Please remember that CISOMB cannot provide immigration advice or adjudication. For further information , please consult this website: http://www.dhs.gov/cisombudsman.
Thank you for again for your inquiry.
Sincerely,
CIS Ombudsman
Diptam,
Thanks for the updates.
My husband's I-140 is pending at TSC for an year now and employer is not agreeing to sign on form 7001. Can we send an e-mail to Omburdsman and expect some action to be taken?? does it help?
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kevinkris
07-15 02:01 PM
Show your support to IV and help yourselves..
May be a toast for EB2 moving to 06/2006 ?
And to cheer up Eb3 folks..
May be a toast for EB2 moving to 06/2006 ?
And to cheer up Eb3 folks..
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rajpatelemail
02-07 11:27 PM
i am going to marry my sister's daughter.. Sweet girl
All the girls are not like that. ;)
anyway my comments are about the crazy, career oriented, tradition less girls. And most of teh US girls are like that. Ofcourse not 100%, there may be few jewels..
All the girls are not like that. ;)
anyway my comments are about the crazy, career oriented, tradition less girls. And most of teh US girls are like that. Ofcourse not 100%, there may be few jewels..
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Caliber
03-03 03:51 PM
But he is kind of busy with other important issues and our issue is not that important for him reason may be we are not his vote bank and will get to the curve of getting the GC when we are very close to our graves. Saburi
I understand your pain Saburi. With a PD of Oct 02 itself, I feel being tortured, depressed. When Obama came, I had some hope. But now, no more hopes...
I understand your pain Saburi. With a PD of Oct 02 itself, I feel being tortured, depressed. When Obama came, I had some hope. But now, no more hopes...
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pdakwala
03-08 01:07 PM
Why is that some people are getting access and some people are note getting access to the judiciary committee hearing on immigration
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inspectorfox
09-14 06:45 AM
I don't agree with your opinion on blocking anyone from interfiling. You have a choice to file in any EB category. Share the reason why you filed EB3 instead of EB1? Grow some balls you efin crybaby!
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pappu
03-12 10:43 AM
IV has started a donor Forum for contributing members.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=109
Our monthly subscription based model will help members get access to this area for that time period. In the coming days we will be consolidating all previous subscribers who are continuing their subscription at present to be added as well. If you are an old continuing subscriber, and do not have access, do send an email to info at immigrationvoice.org with your name, email, amount subscribed every month and your IV ID. We will verify it and add you. If you have given a one time payment this month more than $25, we will be dividing it by $25 and the system will calculate the number of months you are subscribed. If you have the old $20/month subscription, please continue that. We will add you in the Monthly subscribers as well.
If you wish to subscribe, please click on the donate now link, adjacent to the green progress bar above and subscribe.
From now we will post IV updates on the donor forum so that members who contribute get the privilege of getting the information. If the information can be released for public, we will release it on the main forums after a delay. Donor forum will have the first access to the information. All donors will be identified by a 'donor' status in their profiles instead of junior/senior members.
If members want to start a thread in the donor forum, please add 'Donor Forum' before the the thread title so that everyone knows it is in the restricted area.
Admins will visit this area more often and answer questions from members. This will also enable more close coordination and communication between committed members. It is sometimes difficult for us to to read every post on the forum or post certain information for public consumption.
Thank you for your continued support
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=109
Our monthly subscription based model will help members get access to this area for that time period. In the coming days we will be consolidating all previous subscribers who are continuing their subscription at present to be added as well. If you are an old continuing subscriber, and do not have access, do send an email to info at immigrationvoice.org with your name, email, amount subscribed every month and your IV ID. We will verify it and add you. If you have given a one time payment this month more than $25, we will be dividing it by $25 and the system will calculate the number of months you are subscribed. If you have the old $20/month subscription, please continue that. We will add you in the Monthly subscribers as well.
If you wish to subscribe, please click on the donate now link, adjacent to the green progress bar above and subscribe.
From now we will post IV updates on the donor forum so that members who contribute get the privilege of getting the information. If the information can be released for public, we will release it on the main forums after a delay. Donor forum will have the first access to the information. All donors will be identified by a 'donor' status in their profiles instead of junior/senior members.
If members want to start a thread in the donor forum, please add 'Donor Forum' before the the thread title so that everyone knows it is in the restricted area.
Admins will visit this area more often and answer questions from members. This will also enable more close coordination and communication between committed members. It is sometimes difficult for us to to read every post on the forum or post certain information for public consumption.
Thank you for your continued support
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gjoe
01-06 08:16 AM
Folks,
..
Indian culture, heritage 5000 years old. Indian education is gift of britishers, hence needs some adjustments to suit the current global competition.
A small but important correction in the above quote. Indian education is not a gift of the Brits. As a matter of fact history of eduction in India dates back to its cultural heritage. Nalanda university is considered to be the worlds first university. Correct me if I am wrong.
..
Indian culture, heritage 5000 years old. Indian education is gift of britishers, hence needs some adjustments to suit the current global competition.
A small but important correction in the above quote. Indian education is not a gift of the Brits. As a matter of fact history of eduction in India dates back to its cultural heritage. Nalanda university is considered to be the worlds first university. Correct me if I am wrong.
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06-10 11:32 AM
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09-24 02:30 PM
VPARAM, can you pls tell me the procedure/process of opening a company? You can PM me if you want pls.
Milind123
09-16 03:56 PM
Come on people only 11 shots to be fired. (I will take one shot, two already fired). The next person who will pull the trigger is probably a jovial person. He/she has contributed before or will contribute for the first time. He/she thinks we are a bunch of serious people, who will get the job done, but too serious for his/her company.
That is not the case at all. To prove it, here is a joke for you, to make you pull the trigger, amused and probably laughing.
Note: It is impossible to crack a joke and make everyone laughs. Invariably it is offensive to someone. I hope it is not the case here. Also, not everyone likes a particular joke; well the objective here is to make only one person laugh (enough to go to google and pull the trigger). You may have already heard it, but I found it funny. If I don�t get contributions for this one; that�s fine, I won�t try again; this will be the last joke I will post. (I don�t want to scare you away).
An old lady takes the limp body of her rabbit to the vet. She pleads to the Dr �Please please take a look at my dear Pilu. He is not responding at all�. The Dr goes and checks the poor rabbit. �Sorry! But your Pilu is dead�. �No it can�t be the case, help me, help me, please do something�. The Dr says OK and blows a whistle. A cat come and gets on top of the table where Pilu�s body is lying�. She sniffs the body from top to bottom and shakes her head and leaves the room. The dr looks at the old lady and shakes his head too. Old lady protests and says the dr is not doing a good enough job. The Dr again whistles and in comes a Labrador Retriever. The dog also check Pilu and declares that the rabbit is dead. �How much� the lady asks the dr holding Pilu very close to her chest. �$250� the Dr replies.�WHAT $250 TO TELL ME THAT MY DEAR PILU IS NO MORE�. The dr replies back in a very calm tone �it would have cost you 50 when I told you, but you were not convinced and I had to run a lab report and do a cat scam. $100 each�
That is not the case at all. To prove it, here is a joke for you, to make you pull the trigger, amused and probably laughing.
Note: It is impossible to crack a joke and make everyone laughs. Invariably it is offensive to someone. I hope it is not the case here. Also, not everyone likes a particular joke; well the objective here is to make only one person laugh (enough to go to google and pull the trigger). You may have already heard it, but I found it funny. If I don�t get contributions for this one; that�s fine, I won�t try again; this will be the last joke I will post. (I don�t want to scare you away).
An old lady takes the limp body of her rabbit to the vet. She pleads to the Dr �Please please take a look at my dear Pilu. He is not responding at all�. The Dr goes and checks the poor rabbit. �Sorry! But your Pilu is dead�. �No it can�t be the case, help me, help me, please do something�. The Dr says OK and blows a whistle. A cat come and gets on top of the table where Pilu�s body is lying�. She sniffs the body from top to bottom and shakes her head and leaves the room. The dr looks at the old lady and shakes his head too. Old lady protests and says the dr is not doing a good enough job. The Dr again whistles and in comes a Labrador Retriever. The dog also check Pilu and declares that the rabbit is dead. �How much� the lady asks the dr holding Pilu very close to her chest. �$250� the Dr replies.�WHAT $250 TO TELL ME THAT MY DEAR PILU IS NO MORE�. The dr replies back in a very calm tone �it would have cost you 50 when I told you, but you were not convinced and I had to run a lab report and do a cat scam. $100 each�
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