nshah1968
06-26 01:30 PM
Hi Mirage;
What is the new expdate on your new card (if you already have it in your hand)? dose the 1 year ext is from the last date of your current/old card? or 1 year from the date the new card was approved.
What is the new expdate on your new card (if you already have it in your hand)? dose the 1 year ext is from the last date of your current/old card? or 1 year from the date the new card was approved.
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needhelp!
03-05 09:56 AM
vbkris,
We have asked for "sorting by priority date" (updated first post with original letter to USCIS), so we should get the breakdown if we can define "priority date" for them.
What we get
1. We get number of EB2,EB3 Primary and EB2,EB3 Dependent applications.
2. From the wordings, I won't be suprized if they give a summarized number from 2001.
But if someone else requested this info broken into PD buckets by month and Year, then I think we need to use that. The letter I sent had that wording, but I never received any response yet.
Here is what we don't get
1. Break up by country - Helps folks in EB3 as ROW is not current
2. Some might have not applied for AOS for various reason like their I140 is still pending, Some companies mandate that. - This could be a small percentage
3. Break-up by PD month& year
More insight is welcome.. Pre-adjudicated cases are not approved cases. So they can't eliminate them..
We have asked for "sorting by priority date" (updated first post with original letter to USCIS), so we should get the breakdown if we can define "priority date" for them.
What we get
1. We get number of EB2,EB3 Primary and EB2,EB3 Dependent applications.
2. From the wordings, I won't be suprized if they give a summarized number from 2001.
But if someone else requested this info broken into PD buckets by month and Year, then I think we need to use that. The letter I sent had that wording, but I never received any response yet.
Here is what we don't get
1. Break up by country - Helps folks in EB3 as ROW is not current
2. Some might have not applied for AOS for various reason like their I140 is still pending, Some companies mandate that. - This could be a small percentage
3. Break-up by PD month& year
More insight is welcome.. Pre-adjudicated cases are not approved cases. So they can't eliminate them..
sam_hoosier
12-10 09:43 AM
Can you pls post their names/IV handles, so that everyone know who those cowards are ? I am sure a lot of them masquerade as experts on this website, but dont bother to move their butts when needed :mad:
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H4_losing_hope
03-03 10:13 PM
I sent my letters today....
Every letter counts to make a difference. Cheers :)
Every letter counts to make a difference. Cheers :)
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hydboy77
02-14 06:03 PM
I hear some people saying childish things like hijacking this thread if anybody says anything different from what they say. What do you prefer, should I open another thread with title "oppose prefiling AOS", nobody wins neither will I or you when somebody does that. Please tolerate others views then they will tolerate yours.
Without strengthening AC21 if you allow everyone to file AOS then anti eb folks like Grassley, Sanders, Sessions, Durbin will move from targeting H1b to targeting EAD. It takes 6 months to get Perm approval, with pre filing AOS everyone can get EAD in 6 months, anti eb folks and USCIS know that people will be jumping to EAD to escape H1 crackdown, what do you think they will do, they will add amendments and Bills to put restrictions on hiring EAD just like they put restrictions on hiring H1b. We cannot make EAD into another H1b like hell.
Prefiling should be done to give relief to people who missed July fiasco only after
1. Remove\dilute same similar job requirement
2. Make sure EAD is extended without any rfe. USCIS will invent thousand things to issue rfe, EAD should be in a different league to h1 and it should not turn into another h1 where you are slapped with rfe left right and center. Example Pay stub rfe, ability to pay rfe, customer Purchase order RFE etc etc etc, Green card holders don’t have any problem working in these same jobs so why should EAD people face this nonsense (otherwise it is just like h1). Before people complain this will become like a green card, lets me answer in advance, if a person from ROW can get his green card within 12 months of coming to US, why cannot people from India\china who have worked in US for the last 5 to 10 years get the above mentioned relief on EAD. EAD should be superior to h1.the only restriction should be you should work in the same field, i.e. if your labor certification is for Software engineer, programmer analyst etc , then you work in a software related job and cannot become a greeter in walmart :-)
Without strengthening EAD\AC21 with the above mentioned items you are turning EAD into just another h1.If we push for prefiling AOS without strengthening Ac21 it is a big disadvantage and slap on the face for all the people with older priority date. Because of July fiasco when everybody got current and filed for AOS, USCIS issued GC to people from 2006 leaving behind people from 2003, 04 and 05. USCIS should have gradually moved the dates from 2003 to 04 to 05 that way people with older PD would have got it first. With prefiling AOS it will become a lottery like in August 2008 where 2006 PD got GC over 03,04 and 05 in eb2. Safeguards have to be put in place for order of priority date otherwise USCIS will indulge in this lottery mode and excuse there behavior by claiming they did this to save visa wastage.
Without strengthening AC21 if you allow everyone to file AOS then anti eb folks like Grassley, Sanders, Sessions, Durbin will move from targeting H1b to targeting EAD. It takes 6 months to get Perm approval, with pre filing AOS everyone can get EAD in 6 months, anti eb folks and USCIS know that people will be jumping to EAD to escape H1 crackdown, what do you think they will do, they will add amendments and Bills to put restrictions on hiring EAD just like they put restrictions on hiring H1b. We cannot make EAD into another H1b like hell.
Prefiling should be done to give relief to people who missed July fiasco only after
1. Remove\dilute same similar job requirement
2. Make sure EAD is extended without any rfe. USCIS will invent thousand things to issue rfe, EAD should be in a different league to h1 and it should not turn into another h1 where you are slapped with rfe left right and center. Example Pay stub rfe, ability to pay rfe, customer Purchase order RFE etc etc etc, Green card holders don’t have any problem working in these same jobs so why should EAD people face this nonsense (otherwise it is just like h1). Before people complain this will become like a green card, lets me answer in advance, if a person from ROW can get his green card within 12 months of coming to US, why cannot people from India\china who have worked in US for the last 5 to 10 years get the above mentioned relief on EAD. EAD should be superior to h1.the only restriction should be you should work in the same field, i.e. if your labor certification is for Software engineer, programmer analyst etc , then you work in a software related job and cannot become a greeter in walmart :-)
Without strengthening EAD\AC21 with the above mentioned items you are turning EAD into just another h1.If we push for prefiling AOS without strengthening Ac21 it is a big disadvantage and slap on the face for all the people with older priority date. Because of July fiasco when everybody got current and filed for AOS, USCIS issued GC to people from 2006 leaving behind people from 2003, 04 and 05. USCIS should have gradually moved the dates from 2003 to 04 to 05 that way people with older PD would have got it first. With prefiling AOS it will become a lottery like in August 2008 where 2006 PD got GC over 03,04 and 05 in eb2. Safeguards have to be put in place for order of priority date otherwise USCIS will indulge in this lottery mode and excuse there behavior by claiming they did this to save visa wastage.
bskrishna
07-21 02:06 AM
Nice to see IV name in the list...
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delax
07-14 01:36 PM
Are we assuming that all the BEC (Backlog Elimination Center) EB2's have already gotten their GCs..?
Not by a long shot. Read my signature.
Not by a long shot. Read my signature.
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H4_losing_hope
02-07 12:48 PM
Go IV!!!
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kevinkris
02-12 06:00 PM
You are right. The stakes are high..
All Please visit http://www.plant-trees.org where you can
plant a tree for a dime.
Kris
Too late in the game. Lets just finish up what we've started. I believe in go green (I pledged not to buy another box of ziplocs) , but if 25000 sheets of paper will bring me my fixes, I don't mind planting 20 trees to make up for it.
All Please visit http://www.plant-trees.org where you can
plant a tree for a dime.
Kris
Too late in the game. Lets just finish up what we've started. I believe in go green (I pledged not to buy another box of ziplocs) , but if 25000 sheets of paper will bring me my fixes, I don't mind planting 20 trees to make up for it.
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Lasantha
06-08 02:05 PM
We almost fell in to the Fire from the Frying Pan. Now that we are back in the Frying Pan, somehow it doesn't feel that bad of a place to be in. LOL :D
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risker
07-21 12:22 PM
Hi All,
Thank you for the overwhelming response. I did skim through the responses and agree with most of the suggestions/comments if not all.
Someone had brought the issue of FIFO and if there is anything in the law that states that FIFO has to be followed. I am not a law expert myself and cannot comment on if there is any such law. But what I am basing is more on the everyday commensense behaviour that all we humans follow for any queue. FIFO is the predominant thing being done for any queue and that will be the most resonable way to process be it a bunch of applicantions waiting on a queue or to service a number of people waiting on a queue in a bank or post office or whereever it might be. That is the fair, unbiased and non-preferential way of doing things. Isn't it?
I want to make sure to convey the point that I first of all wanted to bring this issue to everyone's attention. May be my message was worded strongly, but doesn't mean that I am not flexible.
I thought suing DOL is one of the options. Of course if there are other viable alternatives that will be less demanding, less expensive and will take a more non-confronting approach but still could have an equal impact in terms of resolving the issue amicably then I am all for it. But then the obvious question is what are the other equally good options? Someone mentioned about a petition. So what is a petition and how do we do it? Also mentioned was writing letters to congressmen etc. So who do we contact and how? Please, please anyone having the information please share.
One more thing is that I am all for a dialog with IV core members and their guidance for this. Since I started this thread doesn't mean that I wanted to sideline IVs, but this is the only way I thought I could communicate to the IV platform about the agony of this issue and how people have been affected by this. So I am all for talking with IV core members on this. But please let me know how I could do that?
So please let us start acting now: The list of next possible steps (in no particular order) are:
- Decide if there are viable alternatives to a lawsuit that is more non-confronting and first try them if possible
- Get the support of IV core team for this
- If no other alternatives are available then consider filing a case. Consult an attorney for this
- Raise more awareness about this and get allt he support we can
- Raise some money towards this cause
So please please provide more inputs so that we could start making some real progress. Thanks!!
Thank you for the overwhelming response. I did skim through the responses and agree with most of the suggestions/comments if not all.
Someone had brought the issue of FIFO and if there is anything in the law that states that FIFO has to be followed. I am not a law expert myself and cannot comment on if there is any such law. But what I am basing is more on the everyday commensense behaviour that all we humans follow for any queue. FIFO is the predominant thing being done for any queue and that will be the most resonable way to process be it a bunch of applicantions waiting on a queue or to service a number of people waiting on a queue in a bank or post office or whereever it might be. That is the fair, unbiased and non-preferential way of doing things. Isn't it?
I want to make sure to convey the point that I first of all wanted to bring this issue to everyone's attention. May be my message was worded strongly, but doesn't mean that I am not flexible.
I thought suing DOL is one of the options. Of course if there are other viable alternatives that will be less demanding, less expensive and will take a more non-confronting approach but still could have an equal impact in terms of resolving the issue amicably then I am all for it. But then the obvious question is what are the other equally good options? Someone mentioned about a petition. So what is a petition and how do we do it? Also mentioned was writing letters to congressmen etc. So who do we contact and how? Please, please anyone having the information please share.
One more thing is that I am all for a dialog with IV core members and their guidance for this. Since I started this thread doesn't mean that I wanted to sideline IVs, but this is the only way I thought I could communicate to the IV platform about the agony of this issue and how people have been affected by this. So I am all for talking with IV core members on this. But please let me know how I could do that?
So please let us start acting now: The list of next possible steps (in no particular order) are:
- Decide if there are viable alternatives to a lawsuit that is more non-confronting and first try them if possible
- Get the support of IV core team for this
- If no other alternatives are available then consider filing a case. Consult an attorney for this
- Raise more awareness about this and get allt he support we can
- Raise some money towards this cause
So please please provide more inputs so that we could start making some real progress. Thanks!!
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amsgc
03-20 10:01 PM
Dude,
Please stop confusing people - there is no such thing as a H-1B transfer.
It is a misnomer. When you move to a new employer, the new employer files a "new petition" with a request to extend your stay.
If you wish to continue working for your current employer, you can do so.
Refer to snathan's post, he has summed it up correctly.
The original poster is good to go - all he has to do is inform USCIS that the never worked for the new employer, and therefore, there are no paystubs, w2forms, etc.
Yes there is and it is called visa portability. :) this is for you as well piyu, do not jump into summary so fast. When you say some one is wrong, you have to quote law.
Ok, Here's what law says about so called "transfer"
. . .
Please stop confusing people - there is no such thing as a H-1B transfer.
It is a misnomer. When you move to a new employer, the new employer files a "new petition" with a request to extend your stay.
If you wish to continue working for your current employer, you can do so.
Refer to snathan's post, he has summed it up correctly.
The original poster is good to go - all he has to do is inform USCIS that the never worked for the new employer, and therefore, there are no paystubs, w2forms, etc.
Yes there is and it is called visa portability. :) this is for you as well piyu, do not jump into summary so fast. When you say some one is wrong, you have to quote law.
Ok, Here's what law says about so called "transfer"
. . .
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Leo07
11-14 09:14 PM
Major reform is "not viable in this Congress," added Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-San Jose, chairwoman of the House Judiciary subcommittee on immigration. (http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_7437469)
There is also opposition to consider piecemeal options which treat legal immigration reform separately.
I am generally a very optimistic person but not seeing whats really viable this year.
I understand that IV is looking into other angles as well. Once again not sure.
Can IV core comment about what our realistic chances are?
Please dont answer "Join your state chapters". I am already a state chapter member.
I don't think it's possible to comment on 'realistic' chances...compred to 2008 there will be better rewards for the same amount of effort.
Because it is a election year people/politicians will focus more on "popular" bills that will draw real voters. Now they are still in 'fund raising' mode and they may have to budge a bit for the corporation monies...
To be honest with you, No matter what the chances are what the IV core will comment on this issue, it's for us to think whether there is a better option than 'not acting now'?
There is also opposition to consider piecemeal options which treat legal immigration reform separately.
I am generally a very optimistic person but not seeing whats really viable this year.
I understand that IV is looking into other angles as well. Once again not sure.
Can IV core comment about what our realistic chances are?
Please dont answer "Join your state chapters". I am already a state chapter member.
I don't think it's possible to comment on 'realistic' chances...compred to 2008 there will be better rewards for the same amount of effort.
Because it is a election year people/politicians will focus more on "popular" bills that will draw real voters. Now they are still in 'fund raising' mode and they may have to budge a bit for the corporation monies...
To be honest with you, No matter what the chances are what the IV core will comment on this issue, it's for us to think whether there is a better option than 'not acting now'?
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indyanguy
07-23 07:20 PM
Hi Ron,
First of thank you for all your useful replies. I just want your opinion to convert my EB3 India to EB2.
My details.
PD: June -2003.
Country: India.
Also when can my PD will be current in future. Please suggest.
Appreciate your help.
**************************************
I think it would be a good idea to make the move. There isn't enough data available for me to say anything more than it's going to be quite a while before your priority date becomes current.
__________________
Ron Gotcher.
Makes sense to make a move. It might be a while (read few years) before we see EB3-I move to 2003.
First of thank you for all your useful replies. I just want your opinion to convert my EB3 India to EB2.
My details.
PD: June -2003.
Country: India.
Also when can my PD will be current in future. Please suggest.
Appreciate your help.
**************************************
I think it would be a good idea to make the move. There isn't enough data available for me to say anything more than it's going to be quite a while before your priority date becomes current.
__________________
Ron Gotcher.
Makes sense to make a move. It might be a while (read few years) before we see EB3-I move to 2003.
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needhelp!
09-05 03:24 PM
Here are some steps to help you GET OFF YOUR BUTT!!
One Goal: Green Card Reform Rally
Find inspiration: Read about other's who have decided to join.
Get excited. Read as much about it as possible, and visualizing what it would be like to be successful (seeing the benefits of the goal in your head), get excited about the goal. Once you�ve done that, it�s just a matter of carrying that energy forward and keeping it going.
Build anticipation. Make it the most important date in your life.
Post your goal. Post it at home and work. Put it on your computer desktop.
Commit publicly. Update your profile
Think about the benefits, not the difficulties. The benefits will help energize you.
Squash negative thoughts; replace them with positive ones. Squash, �This is too hard!� and replace it with, �I can do this!"
Tip: Google 'Get off your butt' and find more motivation.
Please think about the amount of effort that is going on to plan for this rally.
- The mental effort required to plan the logistics of such a huge event
- The physical energy required to make all this a possibility
- The amount of time the members working on this are sacrificing.. time that they could have spent with family or other gainful things
- The financial impact this is causing on the invloved members
and all not for themselves but for all of US.
What is your contribution to this effort. Please show up.
Think .. I am sure you can DO IT.
One Goal: Green Card Reform Rally
Find inspiration: Read about other's who have decided to join.
Get excited. Read as much about it as possible, and visualizing what it would be like to be successful (seeing the benefits of the goal in your head), get excited about the goal. Once you�ve done that, it�s just a matter of carrying that energy forward and keeping it going.
Build anticipation. Make it the most important date in your life.
Post your goal. Post it at home and work. Put it on your computer desktop.
Commit publicly. Update your profile
Think about the benefits, not the difficulties. The benefits will help energize you.
Squash negative thoughts; replace them with positive ones. Squash, �This is too hard!� and replace it with, �I can do this!"
Tip: Google 'Get off your butt' and find more motivation.
Please think about the amount of effort that is going on to plan for this rally.
- The mental effort required to plan the logistics of such a huge event
- The physical energy required to make all this a possibility
- The amount of time the members working on this are sacrificing.. time that they could have spent with family or other gainful things
- The financial impact this is causing on the invloved members
and all not for themselves but for all of US.
What is your contribution to this effort. Please show up.
Think .. I am sure you can DO IT.
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TheOmbudsman
11-07 11:16 PM
It is way more complex than that. Graf was literally abandoned by the GOP, no money at all. The GOP even came up supporting a GOP candidate on their own against Graf. I don't think your conclusion is correct, because Hastert, Sensebrenner, Tom Tancredo and many others against CIR won by large margins.
From what I have been reading, conservative voters want to punish the GOP exactly to teach them a lesson and make them more active from now on.
I think for those who can benefit from the amnesty bills, it is time to celebrate !! Hurray !
Looks like the Leadership of the house is changing.
Interestingly I heard one of the republican commentators comment that whatever happens, including if the republicans lose there will be a change in the house minority republican leadership, he was putting forward people like Pence and Shadegg as the new leaders(they have been pro SKIL bill). In other words, No Hastert, No Sensenbrenner etc in the committees.
Interestingly in the districts that republicans ran anti-immigrant platform, they lost badly. One of the bellweathers districts for that in Arizona, Candidate Graf(who got the republican nomination by his very hard anti illegal immigration platform) lost heavily to a democrat who is pro CIR. There are many more such examples (Sen. Santorum is another example). Thse results bode well for legislation as long as the issue comes up for debate again in this congressional year.
Who knows, now the house republicans might even be willing to consider it in the lame duck session, as atleast they will get to have some say in it. Will be interesting in the next few months.
From what I have been reading, conservative voters want to punish the GOP exactly to teach them a lesson and make them more active from now on.
I think for those who can benefit from the amnesty bills, it is time to celebrate !! Hurray !
Looks like the Leadership of the house is changing.
Interestingly I heard one of the republican commentators comment that whatever happens, including if the republicans lose there will be a change in the house minority republican leadership, he was putting forward people like Pence and Shadegg as the new leaders(they have been pro SKIL bill). In other words, No Hastert, No Sensenbrenner etc in the committees.
Interestingly in the districts that republicans ran anti-immigrant platform, they lost badly. One of the bellweathers districts for that in Arizona, Candidate Graf(who got the republican nomination by his very hard anti illegal immigration platform) lost heavily to a democrat who is pro CIR. There are many more such examples (Sen. Santorum is another example). Thse results bode well for legislation as long as the issue comes up for debate again in this congressional year.
Who knows, now the house republicans might even be willing to consider it in the lame duck session, as atleast they will get to have some say in it. Will be interesting in the next few months.
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Caliber
06-11 08:31 AM
the world is not fair, I am willing to fight my part to make it fair and just for all.
Kartik, as long as we, the EB3 do not come forward and collect huge amount for lobbying, we will continue to lurk here for many more years.
Unfortunately the sad part is, whatever lobbying is done actually helped only EB2 I, may be due to a wrong notion by USCIS that all Hi-tech immigrants are EB2. This could be a fact as there are thousands of 245 cases that fell into EB3.
Another bad thing was that USCIS release this VB yesterday which means one extra day to CRY.
I do not blame any one, but ourselves. We do not want to spend money and hence dying in this process. No solution, but cry at every VB day.
Kartik, as long as we, the EB3 do not come forward and collect huge amount for lobbying, we will continue to lurk here for many more years.
Unfortunately the sad part is, whatever lobbying is done actually helped only EB2 I, may be due to a wrong notion by USCIS that all Hi-tech immigrants are EB2. This could be a fact as there are thousands of 245 cases that fell into EB3.
Another bad thing was that USCIS release this VB yesterday which means one extra day to CRY.
I do not blame any one, but ourselves. We do not want to spend money and hence dying in this process. No solution, but cry at every VB day.
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I_need_GC
07-07 01:23 PM
Can you please tell me where it is mentioned like that?.
How long do you have to work for the employer??
How long do you have to work for the employer??
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little_willy
01-02 01:34 AM
How soon is PERM labor in EB2 category getting approved.
As per this post, it is 8 months or longer.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=307907&postcount=384
As per this post, it is 8 months or longer.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=307907&postcount=384
eb3_2004
03-04 11:03 PM
Guys,,
This is a good chance..If we get 50 people with 100$ each...we can see where it goes....I pledge 100$ if we can get 50 people..
This is a good chance..If we get 50 people with 100$ each...we can see where it goes....I pledge 100$ if we can get 50 people..
vjkypally
09-22 09:57 AM
Aunts and Uncles with Gifts is no reason for you to look down upon entire SW Industry. Remember ur handle "JISDESH......" is prospering because of this Industry. Your Uncles and Aunts didnt do anything to get "JISDESH..." to the position it is in today.
You probably dont deserve a response. I am not from SW industry and yes I have a double Masters but don't feel heart broken that these guys stood up for their rights!!!
You probably dont deserve a response. I am not from SW industry and yes I have a double Masters but don't feel heart broken that these guys stood up for their rights!!!
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